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Post by Rory Freeman on Jan 10, 2013 21:34:40 GMT -5
Ok so we should definitely think about how our lists per each round are going to go and my guess is we should all have the same list to attack the same person and possibly defend each other if its possible. Not quite sure how this all works though.
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Post by Abi-Maria Gomes on Jan 10, 2013 22:14:49 GMT -5
I was actually thinking the opposite. It only takes one strike to take someone out, right? If we all attack the same person, we'd be wasting 6 moves in one turn that way.
I was thinking that we attack every round and every round, we each attack a different person in a rotation.
Like my list could be 1. Attack Alexis, 2. Attack Jonas, 3. Attack Malcolm, 4. Attack RC, and so on through my 15 moves.
Then Ashley's list could possibly be 1. Attack Jonas, 2. Attack Malcolm, 3. Attack RC, 4. Attack Tijuana, and so on through her 15 moves.
By doing that, we're ensuring that all members of the other tribe are being attacked every round so that if they ever go to restock or use a shield on someone else, we take them out. Also, by having our attack rotate like that, if one of us gets taken out, we still have the other people on our tribe attacking the people on the other tribe in a short period of time.
Then again, I've never done this challenge, so while this strategy makes sense to me, I could be misunderstanding the rules or possibly someone else might have done this before and may know a better strategy.
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Post by Jay Byars on Jan 10, 2013 22:18:06 GMT -5
You guys are ahead of me, all I digested from that was "Challenge! Send in a list!" The end.
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Post by Matt Elrod on Jan 11, 2013 0:25:25 GMT -5
All right. Here's something for thought.
Let's look at Abi's idea, but add one thing to it. How about we establish a safe person who we have one person defend each round? Since we all have 2 shields, we can guarantee that one person lasts 12 rounds, which might give us an edge, since we can still attack 6 people per round with everyone not defending.
Round one: Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina. Not attacked: Tyson
Round two: Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson. Not attacked: Alexis
Round three: Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis. Not attacked: Jonas
Round four: RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas. Not attacked: Malcolm
Round five: Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm. Not attacked: RC
Round six: Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC. Not attacked: Tijuana
Round seven: Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana Not attacked: Tina
Round eight: Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina. Not attacked: Tyson
Round nine: Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson. Not attacked: Alexis
Round ten: Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis. Not attacked: Jonas
Round eleven: RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas. Not attacked: Malcolm
Round twelve: Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm. Not attacked: RC
Round thirteen: Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC. Not attacked: Tijuana
Round fourteen: Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana Not attacked: Tina
Round fifteen: Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina. Not attacked: Tyson
In all fifteen rounds, each person is still attacked 86% of the time, except Tyson who would be about 80%
So just for example, I'll pick myself as the defender.
- Abi could defend me round 1 and 2 and attack person #1 on the list each round they're not defending.
- Ashley could defend me round 3 and 4 and attack person #2 on the list each round they're not defending.
- Brandon could defend me round 5 and 6 and and attack person #3 on the list each round they're not defending.
- Jay could defend me round 7 and 8 and attack person #4 on the list each round they're not defending.
- Lisa could defend me round 9 and 10 and attack person #5 on the list each round they're not defending.
- Rory could defend me round 11 and 12 and attack person #6 on the list each round they're not defending.
I would attack the person on the list for each person as they're defending. Then once 12 other shields run out, I can still survive until the end.
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Post by Matt Elrod on Jan 11, 2013 0:44:26 GMT -5
The flaw is that if one person defending our designated safe person (myself in the example) dies, then we're out of the challenge.
Do you guys think we should use the idea I posted, the idea Abi posted (all offensive), or something else?
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Post by Rory Freeman on Jan 11, 2013 0:47:18 GMT -5
Well regardless what we do, we will eventually die, so we need to hypothesize who they might kill off first and then decide who we save first. They may do it randomly, or they might choose, so we kinda have no choice but to at least figure out who they will kill first, then decide how to proceed with the shielding then. It's all hypothetical at this point.
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Post by Abi-Maria Gomes on Jan 11, 2013 12:10:53 GMT -5
Well, whatever we do, we should figure it out and send in soon. Less than 8 hours left in this challenge.
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Post by Rory Freeman on Jan 11, 2013 12:42:34 GMT -5
I think we should get on chat, when I'm available I'll come online so we can all discuss it.
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Post by Lisa Whelchel on Jan 11, 2013 13:36:39 GMT -5
I'll try and be on chat on and off throughout the day- I have a few things planned, so I might be missing every now and then, but I'll try my best.
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Post by Matt Elrod on Jan 11, 2013 13:39:32 GMT -5
Here are some new ideas for this morning based on the chart from yesterday. I'm doing this alphabetical so Rory came up as our 'safe person'. In order to assure he's alive in round 4, he can shield himself during round 2 and round 3. Then since we're not swording Tyson round 1, we can guarantee that Rory's alive and will sword Tyson round 4 by switching him with Jay, who was going to sword Tyson. Jay would then sword who Ashley would have sworded, since Ashley is defending Rory that round.
Round one: Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina. Not attacked: Tyson
Round two: Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson. Not attacked: Alexis
Round three: Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis. Not attacked: Jonas
Round four: RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas. Not attacked: Malcolm
Round five: Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm. Not attacked: RC
Round six: Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC. Not attacked: Tijuana
Round seven: Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana Not attacked: Tina
Round eight: Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina. Not attacked: Tyson
Round nine: Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson. Not attacked: Alexis
Round ten: Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis. Not attacked: Jonas
Round eleven: RC, Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas. Not attacked: Malcolm
Round twelve: Tijuana, Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm. Not attacked: RC
Round thirteen: Tina, Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC. Not attacked: Tijuana
Round fourteen: Tyson, Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana Not attacked: Tina
Round fifteen: Alexis, Jonas, Malcolm, RC, Tijuana, Tina. Not attacked: Tyson
Abi (1 on list):
1. Shield Rory
2. Sword Jonas
3. Sword Malcolm
4. Shield Rory
5. Sword Tijuana
6. Sword Tina
7. Sword Tyson
8. Sword Alexis
9. Sword Jonas
10. Sword Malcolm
11. Sword RC
12. Sword Tijuana
13. Sword Tina
14. Sword Tyson
15. Sword Alexis
Rory (Shielder, Swords the person who the person shielding him should sword on the list):
1. Sword Alexis
2. Shield himself
3. Shield himself
4. Sword Tyson
5. Sword Tina
6. Sword Alexis
7. Sword Jonas
8. Sword RC
9. Sword Tijuana
10. Sword Tyson
11. Sword Alexis
12. Sword Malcolm
13. Sword RC
14. Sword Tina
15. Sword Tyson
Ashley (2 on list):
1. Sword Jonas
2. Sword Malcolm
3. Sword RC
4. Shield Rory
5. Shield Rory
6. Sword Tyson
7. Sword Alexis
8. Sword Jonas
9. Sword Malcolm
10. Sword RC
11. Sword Tijuana
12. Sword Tina
13. Sword Tyson
14. Sword Alexis
15. Sword Jonas
Brandon (3 on list):
1. Sword Malcolm
2. Sword RC
3. Sword Tijuana
4. Sword Tina
5. Sword Tyson
6. Shield Rory
7. Shield Rory
8. Sword Malcolm
9. Sword RC
10. Sword Tijuana
11. Sword Tina
12. Sword Tyson
13. Sword Alexis
14. Sword Jonas
15. Sword Malcolm
Jay (4 on list):
1. Sword RC
2. Sword Tijuana
3. Sword Tina
4. Sword Tijuana
5. Sword Alexis
6. Sword Jonas
7. Sword Malcolm
8. Shield Rory
9. Shield Rory
10. Sword Tijuana
11. Sword Tina
12. Sword Tyson
13. Sword Jonas
14. Sword Malcolm
15. Sword RC
Lisa (5 on list):
1. Sword Tijuana
2. Sword Tina
3. Sword Tyson
4. Sword Alexis
5. Sword Jonas
6. Sword Malcolm
7. Sword RC
8. Sword Tijuana
9. Sword Tina
10. Shield Rory
11. Shield Rory
12. Sword Jonas
13. Sword Malcolm
14. Sword RC
15. Sword Tijuana
Matt (6 on list):
1. Sword Tina
2. Sword Tyson
3. Sword Alexis
4. Sword Jonas
5. Sword Malcolm
6. Sword RC
7. Sword Tijuana
8. Sword Tina
9. Sword Tyson
10. Sword Alexis
11. Sword Jonas
12. Shield Rory
13. Shield Rory
14. Sword Tijuana
15. Sword Tina
Just something else to look at and think over.
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Post by Abi-Maria Gomes on Jan 11, 2013 14:03:01 GMT -5
I'm fine with this. Anyone else have any objections?
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Post by Abi-Maria Gomes on Jan 11, 2013 14:16:04 GMT -5
I leave for work in 2 hours. If we don't disagree with what Matt has posted by then, then I'll send in what he posted above to make sure I have my list in on time.
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Post by Lisa Whelchel on Jan 11, 2013 14:43:12 GMT -5
It looks good to me!
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Post by Jay Byars on Jan 11, 2013 15:08:15 GMT -5
Do I have permission to send in Matt's list for me?
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Post by Ashley Underwood on Jan 11, 2013 15:23:06 GMT -5
Thanks Matt! After reading through I wholeheartedly support that.
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